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I know everyone has been waiting with baited breath to see what was in bag #2 of my most recent purchase. If Bag 1 can be considered the Good of the purchase  then here it is…

The bad.

Lots of Score baseball. Woo-hoo. Did you notice the nicely stored Babe Ruth card? Yep. a .5cent card is protected. This is typical of the types of lots people sell. It’s a name they may have heard of so they think it’s worth something and protect it. Normally it’s not..and it shouldn’t be.

Within this dreck there was a total of 3 cards I did actual need for my “Not Actively Collecting” set. I don’t collect Score baseball but enough of it has come through my hands that I am putting together a hand collated set (yes I know i can get the boxed set for $5 but this is way more fun AND it forces me to look at every card in every lot I buy.)

I did find these 3 cards that I actually needed.

So put that together with the Score Hockey sets and the Upper Deck hockey I needed from bag 1 and I’m pretty happy with the overall purchase. But this second bag was definitely not the worth $20 on it’s own.

But wait. There is one more diamond in the muck. I did find this cool card.

My first Sport Flics Card. From the 1988 Set. Pretty cool card.

And then there was the rest…The really ugly stuff coming in Part 3.

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Sorry no pictures today. Just an explanation/apology/rant.

Buying on Kijiji sometimes leads me to come up against people who have very unrealistic expectations of the value of their cards. It’s almost sad to tell someone that the collection they have is almost worthless.  Some people take it with humour and realism. I like these people. We usually email back and forth once or twice and then I take their junk wax off their hands, spend hours (or days sometimes) sifting through and come up with the handful or cards that actually were worth keeping. It’s always amazing what people have in top loaders. Cards that are worth 25 cents get the plastic treatment because it says “Rookie Card”

Unfortunately , others get down right upset or angry and accuse me of “low balling” them and that “they know it’s worth a lot more than I suggest”. Trust me, it probably isn’t

This is normally because they bought during the junk wax era, or the cards were given to them by someone who bought during that era. They are living in a time warp and still think it is 1992 and that a Ken Griffey UD rookie card or Eric Lindros Oshawa Generals card is going to be their ticket to retirement.

Let’s be real. If your ad has been up for a few weeks (and I love the ones that keep reposting the same ad every few days) and the best offer you have had is $40. Then your collection is probably worth a lot closer to $40 than the $500 you have it listed at.

If no one is jumping at it then lower your price. If you listed good cards at a good price they would not stay up for long. It’s the way supply and demand works, you dont exist in your own bubble of economic stasis. Don’t expect someone who knows the value of the product you have to say. “Gee you’re right. You’ve had these cards since 1991 and never cared about them until now when you want to sell them, That MUST mean that you know the true price/worth of a partial set of 1991 Donruss baseball.”

I can usually tell when a person has an unrealistic expectation before I even send the email. If their ad has no pictures AT ALL. It’s a bad sign.
If there ad is showing Donruss 91 baseball, ANYTHING Pro-set, or Score Hockey or is loaded with shots of binder pages in no describable order then it’s not a good sign either.

It’s mostly the unsuspecting Junk Wax holderse I feel for though. To have a collection of anything and be told it’s not worth what you though can be hard to hear.

But here’s my question.

If you only collected from 89-93 why did you stop? If you had kept going you’d get back into some good years. If they made you happy back then, why don’t you keep collecting? If they were only for an investment, then think of it like buying Bre-x or Nortel stock. The bubble burst.

So lets define Junk Wax once and for all. Cuz if you have it, then you should know.

Friends don’t let friends buy Junk Wax (unless there is something of value in the pile)

1987 – 1993 was almost exclusively JUNK. All Sports. Even Non sports. If it is not from Topps, OPC, or Upper Deck then it is almost certainly junk no matter what is says. (Just saying collectors edition is enough for it NOT to be a collectors edition) It doesn’t necessarily mean that it’s garbage and NOBODY likes it or collects it, just that it was produce in such mass quantities that to this day it’s still readily valuable, thus destroying any hope of it someday ever becoming valuable. If it is Topps (Baseball), OPC (Hockey) or Upper Deck (Either) then there may be a few gems in the rough, but they are few and far between.

The card collecting/producing/selling industry was booming then, so the card companies did everything possible to keep up with demand instead of keeping things reasonable. Remember you could buy cards EVERYWHERE and EVERYONE was an expert. There were multiple magazines, some newspapers had columns about it in their sports sections, cards shows every week, radio shows and TV shows.

That’s not to say that there wasn’t junk put out before and after that date range. And it’s not to say that there are not cards in that era that still cost $$ or are hard to find. It’s just that you’ll have to wade through a lot of dreck to find the gems.

And telling people they have almost exclusively dreck is sometimes hard to do.

I made a purchase on Kijiji the other day. It’s kinda like a garage sale, lots of people post their crap and sometimes people buy it.

I really like buying this way, but I have to stick to my rule. There must be at least one card I want/need to buy the lot. The way I look at it $20 will buy me a movie and a small drink and keep me entertained for about 2 hrs. At the end of it, I’ll have nothing to show.

This $20 spent gives me a bunch of hours of fun/enjoyment and at the end of it I’m a bit closer to my collecting goal.

I went out on a bit of a risk on this one. I could only go by the 2 photos the girl sent me. She lives north of the city so it would have sucked to drive up there and not come back with anything. I was fairly committed to coming back with it (and hey, let’s face it even raccoon poo has not deterred me in the past).

Here’s what $20 got me…

2 Bags of cards in various states (although honestly 99% were in fantastic shape).

Bag 1 consisted mostly of hockey, bag 2 baseball and basketball.

Bag 1 including:

Score 90-91 factory set. Out of boredom I had be hand collating a set from yard sale pickups, I guess now I can move that to the doubles pile as I now have this. As a bonus there was also a factory Rookie/Traded set.  There was actually 2 complete sets but I gave one to a friend already. So, pretty close to having made the $20 value already (if you consider each of these worth at least $5.00)

Also in the first bag was as stack of Upper Deck from 91-92

I personally like how the box was listed as Collection and traders. How big could the collection have been if the traders and collection were in the same box?

The Upper Deck 91-92 set is another that’s been just sitting around about 70% completed since, well, 91-92. This box did yield me about 150 cards toward the set putting me at the “almost care enough to actively seek out the last few cards” level.What I was happy to see was the SP card for this set.

This was THE CHASE card of the set, prolly on of the biggest chase cards of the year. Pretty exciting right? I was in 1st year university when this came  out and I remember going to card shows and this uninspiring, boring card was commanding $10-20. It was one of the main reasons why I decided NOT to chase short prints, or 1/1’s.  It’s nice to pick up it now though.

Also in the bag was a pile of Score Hockey from 90-91 and 91-92. Seeing as there was a factory set of the 90-91 the rest were doubles. Of the 91-92 Score I still have to go through them to see if the 3 or 4 cards I am missing were in there.

So, overall I am pretty happy with the contents of bag 1. I feel like I at least broke even on the entire purchase and still have the contents of bag 2 to go through…

Anyone interested in some Score 90-91 Hockey doubles?

 

 

Dear Interwebs and fellow bloggers.

My preferred way to collect is by buying mixed lots on Kijiji or at garage sales. Usually when it is a mixed box it has not been picked through and you can quite often find some gems among the commons. It also gets the price per card down to an insanely low number at times that it doesn’t take many “hits” to make it work it.

If you are paying $10 for a box of cards and there are 10 old 1975 Topps cards and a few 75-76 OPC Hockey along with some random other stuff, the fun of digging through the box makes it worth it.

The down side of doing it this way is I acquire a lot of peripheral cards and  sets. Some I have an easy time moving on to others. One friend takes pretty much any non sport card, another takes the wrestling another takes racing etc etc

What I am left with then becomes a questions of  Do I have this? Do I want this? Do I want to start collecting this? Is it worth anything?

Baseball and Hockey are simple. I know what I collect and want, and I put the rest aside for trade (or in the case of 90-91 Proset Hockey disposal).

But Basketball stumps me. I’m not really a fan. I never really played as a Kid. I don’t know who the stars are or what card is good or bad. I know I could figure it out, but with Soccer, Hockey and Baseball cards as a focus I figure I have enough on the go.

I really don’t have the time or interest to research them so they go in a box marked  “other” and sit on a shelf.

In Canada we don’t get as many Basketball fans as in the USA so the box is not huge yet.

a little over 1 and a 1/2 rows of a 3200 count.

But I’d like to figure this out before it goes to much further. Who wants them? Ideally I’d find someone who will trade me for some hockey or baseball.

The bonus is that if I find someone they can have these ones and first claim on any future basketball cards that might come my way. So yes, it could be lots of 90’s stuff, but also anything I get I want a go-to person to trade with.

Are you that person? Do you know that person? if so,let me know because the few blogs or web pages I have found  of people who are collectors are either 1) way stale or b) haven’t responded.

I’m so bad with Basketball I don’t even know which cards to highlight.

Will you be my Basketball go to guy?

The first trade is ready. Everything in the box for 1 or 3 cards from my want list.

Let me know.

Signed,

Desperately seeking partner.